So, I've read several reviews of this book and I've seen several reactions to this work, but I wanted to get it straight from the horse's mouth in a manner of speaking. So I'm reading The God Delusion, and I'll give you my notes.
Even in the preface Dawkins has already shown his prejudice. Obviously the title says a lot, "Delusion." He even mentions that psychologists asked him to change it because the word delusion is a scientific term and to apply it to the millions of people that believe in god wouldn't do justice to the word. Of course that doesn't seem to faze Dawkins and his writing about that almost seems boastful, like he's proud of the fact that he's insulted the majority of the world. How about this quote? "... I believe there are plenty of open-minded people out there: people whose childhood indoctrination was not too insidious, or for other reasons didn't 'take,' or whose native intelligence is strong enough to overcome it" (pg6). In case you didn't catch that, if you're open-minded or intelligent you'll give up anything you were taught about God in your childhood and be an atheist, like all the other smart people in the world.
How about this "gem"? Quote from a Roman Catholic bishop who wrote to Einstein, "...He is all wrong. Some men think that because they have achieved a high degree of learning in some field, they are qualified to express opinions in all." Of course, Dawkins' retort is a false analogy based on his presupposition that God is just as fanciful as fairies. Dawkins claims that theology isn't a "proper field" at all. I find this particularly interesting because I've heard a very similar comment levied against Dawkins. He's a world-renowned ethologist and evolutionary biologist, not a philosopher or theologian yet he's written extensively and authoritatively on subjects he has no (formal) education in. No offence to his brilliance in his fields, but what expertise does a animal behaviorist and evolutionary biologist have in the fields of philosophy of religion, theology, philosophy in general? Being brilliant in one particular field of knowledge doesn't give one authority to speak to all other fields of knowledge.
The biggest problem I have so far is that there haven't been any arguments (yet, he keeps hinting that they'll be proven in later chapters). Chapter one, the first section is simply a childish foot-stomping raving that when atheists say "god" they don't mean the word "god." Something akin to a child throwing a fit saying, "I did not say what you think I said!" Alright! When Dawkins and other atheists say "god" they really mean, uh, well... nothing really, they apparently mean force or nature or the universe, or whatever they want it to mean at that particular moment, but they most certainly do not mean a personal intervening god that is worthy of worship. Dawkins talks about how Einstein was NOT a theist as some theists claim, that he was actually a deist or pantheist. The only acceptable belief in god, to Dawkins, is the deists' god that creates the universe then leaves it alone and never interacts with it again; an invisible, intangible, inactive, uncaring, uninvolved, person-less, unintelligent being with no human characteristics at all. The deists' god is the same as the pantheists' god, an impersonal force that has nothing to do with humanity, that's the only acceptable god, one that has nothing to do with the universe.
Then in chapter one, section two, Dawkins offers a half-hearted attempt at an (advance) apology, which comes too late since the only thing he's said so far is that only intelligent people believe in either an impersonal god or that the universe is god, and by extension only idiots believe in a personal god. It's almost comical, Dawkins makes this claim that theists are always trotting out scientists, especially Einstein, that believe/believed in god and then dismisses it as a bad argument. Then, he turns the same fallacious argument around and uses it, saying that this or that brilliant scientist is atheist and the vast majority of Nobel prize winners in science have been atheists, on and on. I'm sorry, but if an argument is fallacious for one side of an argument, it's equally as fallacious for the opposing side. Think about it; if I say, "Thousands of people believe in pink unicorns, therefore I'm a pink unicorn." You cannot say, "Thousands of people don't believe in pink unicorns, therefore there's no such thing as pink unicorns." An appeal to the people or authority is a fallacy for either side.
In chapter two the insults just keep coming. Not only does Dawkins attack those that believe in a personal god, but he begins attacking anyone who believes that we cannot know whether or not there is a god, agnostics. As part of his disdain for agnosticism he attacks the concept of NOMA (Non-Overlapping MAgisteria). He, who has been continuously accusing God of evil acts and intentions, seems to be calling on god to prove himself. It's like Dawkins is calling upon god to submit to scientific inquiry or proof. It's like Dawkins is saying he expects this wicked, sneaky, conniving, evil, all-powerful entity to answer this puny ant's call. Reminds me of a quote from the 2012 Avengers movie, "The ant has no quarrel with the boot." (Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying God is the boot looking to crush ants like us, merely that Dawkins is making god out to be this crushing, killing, evil boot character then complains when that entity doesn't kowtow to his demands for proof.) Dawkins, who is much less than an ant, is shaking his puny fist at a god he doesn't believe exists saying, "How dare you not prove yourself to me! How dare you presume to break the laws you set by performing miracles, but when I ask you're silent!"
I just finished reading Jenna Miscavige Hill's book about getting out of Scientology, and she had a quote that Dawkins would do well to listen to: "My parents were aware it was my choice to remain in [Scientology], but they also knew I was brainwashed. The last thing you want to tell a person who is brainwashed is that they are brainwashed." If Dawkins really wants to get through to us poor brainwashed theists, telling us we're brainwashed is definitely not the way to go.
Then on pg. 83 Dawkins quotes Norman Malcom in relation to Anselm's ontological argument, which seems to have a loophole in it about existence being more perfect than non-existence. "The doctrine that existence is a perfection is remarkably queer. It makes sense and is true to say that my future house will be a better one if it is insulated than if it is not insulated; but what could it mean to say that it will be a better house if it exists than if it does not?" The answer to this riddle seem painfully obvious. If you need/want shelter, it's much better to have a house that exists than one that doesn't.
In summation: the first three chapters and preface do nothing in the way of arguing against God; hopefully the actual arguments will begin in chapter four. The first three chapters have been nothing but blustering and casually brushing aside arguments for god. Even Aquinas' eloquently framed ways to God were poorly treated and no real arguments or counter-arguments have been made. These first three chapters can be summed up as such: Anyone who believes there is a God and anyone who believes that we cannot know if there is or isn't a god, is an idiot.
My thoughts on philosophy, language learning, photography, theology, and life in general. All are welcome! I hope my random ramblings can somehow improve your life. I'm really only writing for my own benefit, as a journal of sorts. Hope you enjoy.
Thursday, November 14, 2013
Monday, November 11, 2013
The Philosophy of Thomas Aquinas: Part 6: What Is God? The Divine Attributes
Continuing this series on the philosophy of Thomas Aquinas given in fourteen lectures by Professor Peter Kreeft, professor of philosophy at Boston College and King's College. A short note before I dig into this lecture. I've noticed that these entries are getting way too long. I think I need to pare down some of the lecture notes and only give a bullet point style outline of the lectures (of course when I came to the end I noticed I really hadn't shortened it much).
First about Thomas' philosophy in general, three things: disciplined, only going as far as logic takes it, his abstract deduction is fruitful from small premises a great edifice is built, although theoretical in nature Thomas' philosophy is full of powerful practicality.
To answer this question, "What is God?" Thomas starts off, we can't know exactly what God is only what He is not. All of the divine attributes are negations. Infinite: not finite, Eternal: no termination, immutable: not changing, even oneness has a meaning that includes not divisible. He starts off with and finishes with, God's unity.
Here are some of the compositional possibilities that Thomas proves cannot be within God:
The goodness of existence has two proofs for Thomas, one that all desire goodness, and perfection is only as far as a thing is actual, existence is what makes all things actual, existence is goodness. That's not to say there isn't evil, that's from moral choices. Just that existence itself is good. Also, everything that exists is either the Creator or the creation. The Creator is perfect goodness and anything the perfectly good Creator makes must also be good. Thomas agrees with Aristotle that there are "three kinds of goodness: the pleasant, the useful, and the virtuous." All things are created with these three things, it's only moral choices that can be virtuous or vicious.
The next feature is infinity. An interesting comparison with Greek and Roman philosophy here, because in Greek and Roman thought infinitude is a negative thing. Prof Kreeft's reasoning is that they were thinking too concretely/literally when it came to God. They envisioned things in the physical sense. God being infinitely tall or big would be a negative concept. That's evident in their theology, even the greatest of their gods had physical bodies, physical attributes. The God of Judaism and Christianity is infinite in His spiritual characteristics wisdom, goodness etc.
Next on omnipresent:
Next is immutability: "God is pure actuality, without potentiality. All mutability, all change, begins with something potential and actualizes it. If there’s nothing potential in God, there’s no change in God. If there were, then some new perfection would be gained or some old perfection would be lost, and then God would not be perfect at every moment." (Quote from lecture notes, not Thomas' writings.) Part of immutability is wrapped up in eternality, that is to an eternal being there is no future, no change, no movement through time. As humans we move through time one moment at a time, to God all moments are simultaneously now. As a side note not really mentioned in the lecture. Coming from this argument it's a simple step to say God is omniscient. If God is everywhere, at all times obviously He knows all things.
Lastly, unity (against polytheism):
Sorry that this entry has been so long in coming. I've been taking a break while I completed this semester of classes and I've been busy with other things. Also, in all honesty, this one was quite difficult for me. Some of the arguments seem circular though I think part of it is Prof Kreeft's style. He doesn't seem to follow a clear, concise, flowing outline with bullet-points, introductions and conclusions. He seems to have written these lectures in stream-of-consciousness style and they are often difficult to follow.
First about Thomas' philosophy in general, three things: disciplined, only going as far as logic takes it, his abstract deduction is fruitful from small premises a great edifice is built, although theoretical in nature Thomas' philosophy is full of powerful practicality.
To answer this question, "What is God?" Thomas starts off, we can't know exactly what God is only what He is not. All of the divine attributes are negations. Infinite: not finite, Eternal: no termination, immutable: not changing, even oneness has a meaning that includes not divisible. He starts off with and finishes with, God's unity.
Here are some of the compositional possibilities that Thomas proves cannot be within God:
He is not composed of material parts, of matter and form, of subject and nature, or substance and attributes, of essence and existence, of genus and difference, of substance and accident, of any other composition at all, or of composition with other beings.God doesn't lack any perfection which exists within any genus. The "argument" for God's perfection doesn't seem like an argument so much as an assertion. God is such and such. E.g. beauty, whatever beauty we recognize in the things we see, is in God fully actualized and whole, without limits. A detachment from worldly beauty is a deeper appreciation of beauty because true beauty is in God.
The goodness of existence has two proofs for Thomas, one that all desire goodness, and perfection is only as far as a thing is actual, existence is what makes all things actual, existence is goodness. That's not to say there isn't evil, that's from moral choices. Just that existence itself is good. Also, everything that exists is either the Creator or the creation. The Creator is perfect goodness and anything the perfectly good Creator makes must also be good. Thomas agrees with Aristotle that there are "three kinds of goodness: the pleasant, the useful, and the virtuous." All things are created with these three things, it's only moral choices that can be virtuous or vicious.
The next feature is infinity. An interesting comparison with Greek and Roman philosophy here, because in Greek and Roman thought infinitude is a negative thing. Prof Kreeft's reasoning is that they were thinking too concretely/literally when it came to God. They envisioned things in the physical sense. God being infinitely tall or big would be a negative concept. That's evident in their theology, even the greatest of their gods had physical bodies, physical attributes. The God of Judaism and Christianity is infinite in His spiritual characteristics wisdom, goodness etc.
Next on omnipresent:
“God is in all things not as part of their essence nor as an accident but as an agent is present to that upon which it works . . . And since God is being itself by His own essence, created being must be His proper effect, as to ignite is the proper effect of fire. Now God causes this effect in things not only when they first begin to be, but as long as they are preserved in being (that distinguishes him from Deism), as light is caused in the air by the sun as long as the air remains illuminated. Therefore as long as a thing has being, God must be present to it. (Now watch what second premise he adds to this first premise to prove his stunning conclusion.) But being is innermost in each thing and most fundamentally inherent in all things. Hence God is in all things, and innermostly.” (Quote from lecture notes. Prof Kreeft's interjections in parentheses.)I could be mistaken here, and I don't want to try to claim that science has proven God or even described God per se, but I see an interesting parallel between Thomas' arguments and the idea of strong and weak nuclear forces (or all four of the "fundamental forces"). Prof Kreeft goes on to say that God is more present to everything than that thing is to itself. God is more present to you than you are to yourself. This does not contradict God's transcendence, see above God is not "of composition with other beings," because God is not in a way physically present in everything (that's why I'm not so sure about the fundamental forces parallel), rather God is present in everything as a mind or will. God's transcendence is such that He's not limited by space (or time).
Next is immutability: "God is pure actuality, without potentiality. All mutability, all change, begins with something potential and actualizes it. If there’s nothing potential in God, there’s no change in God. If there were, then some new perfection would be gained or some old perfection would be lost, and then God would not be perfect at every moment." (Quote from lecture notes, not Thomas' writings.) Part of immutability is wrapped up in eternality, that is to an eternal being there is no future, no change, no movement through time. As humans we move through time one moment at a time, to God all moments are simultaneously now. As a side note not really mentioned in the lecture. Coming from this argument it's a simple step to say God is omniscient. If God is everywhere, at all times obviously He knows all things.
Lastly, unity (against polytheism):
“The unity of God is proved from the infinity of His perfection. For it was shown above that God comprehends in Himself the whole perfection of being. If then many gods existed, they would necessarily differ from each other. Something therefore would belong to the one which did not belong to the other. And if this were a privation, one of them would not be absolutely perfect; but if it were a perfection, one of them would be without it. So it is impossible for many gods to exist.”How does this work with the Trinity? The concept of the Triune God doesn't conflict with this concept of oneness as much as people think. Thomas' theological points on this matter echo or quote Bernard of Clairvaux, that God, is love and the unity of love is stronger and more perfect than the unity in the mathematical unit, one. Real love binds people together in such a way that one would die rather than let his or her beloved be harmed. This is why the unity of the Trinity is greater than any other unity.
Sorry that this entry has been so long in coming. I've been taking a break while I completed this semester of classes and I've been busy with other things. Also, in all honesty, this one was quite difficult for me. Some of the arguments seem circular though I think part of it is Prof Kreeft's style. He doesn't seem to follow a clear, concise, flowing outline with bullet-points, introductions and conclusions. He seems to have written these lectures in stream-of-consciousness style and they are often difficult to follow.
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Thursday, November 7, 2013
A Philosophical Approach to Abortion
The goal is to arrive at a position wherein one either must accept abortion as wrong or accept that their own murder is right. Or, that abortion is equivalently wrong to murder.
(1) Human life is intrinsically valuable.
(4) Even at early stages of development (weeks 1-9) it is medically discernible that the group of cells comprising an embryo is going to develop into a human fetus.
(5) A fetus becomes alive while still in the womb, that is by the typical definition of human life, discernible brain waves. Approximately in the 20th to 36th weeks of pregnancy, as currently measured, not that it doesn't occur earlier, just earliest measurable.
Given the above:
(6) Abortion is wrong, equivalent to manslaughter or murder.
Some background arguments:
For (1), If one rejects this premise than one's own life is invaluable. If one makes a case for non-intrinsic value, then what is human life's value based on?
For (2), This is a loophole of sorts. IF a thieving murderer breaks into your house and threatens you with death, you have every right to self-defense and are perfectly justified in killing that person in self-defense. The same could be said of a pregnancy, if the presence of a fetus in a woman's womb is killing her, with a physician's assistance making that determination she would be justified in killing the fetus. This is a common critique for pro-lifers because many take the stance that it's never justifiable to kill the fetus. I can only make that exception and even so, if the mother determines that it's worth the risk to her own life to provide life for the fetus that's her choice.
For (3), Take this endangered frog, the Panamanian Golden Frog
And we had some of these eggs
That we know, with as much certainty as anyone can have, that they're going to hatch into these tadpoles:
How would we treat those eggs and or tadpoles? Would we just throw them away? Now, one might say, "they're just frogs," but remember we're talking about the same level of potentiality in the first week(s) of pregnancy as these eggs. The parallel is clear, even the very beginnings of the potentiality to be a human life should be treated as valuable as full-grown human life. (I personally think it's more valuable, because it has more potential than a grown human mathematically, it has more life to live and it hasn't already made choices which guide itself.)
For (4), Just as in (3) the eggs/tadpoles are almost certainly going to grow into a living thriving fetus, then baby, then child, then adult. (I realize I left off certain developmental levels, but the argument still stands, if life is precious and the potential for life is also precious then it is clear at all levels it's precious.)
For (5), Why is there a double-standard among abortion advocates that a fetus isn't alive until it's removed from the womb, but a person is alive until they have no readable brain activities? There's an even more telling double-standard when one considers just what we call alive? We refer to viruses and other single-celled organisms as alive, why do we call a fetus a "mass of cells"? I know the reason, but just wanted to point out the double-standard.
For (6), This should be clear. I know there are many counter-arguments, I'll try to cover some of them.
(1) Some answers to the question of the value of a human life try to make it scientific, or some other rationalization. But, no matter at whatever level one deny the value of human life, one opens the argument up to mutability/relativism. Under relativism, one can rationalize pretty much anything including one's own murder.
(2) Some claim that the "mass of cells" is a part of the woman's body and liken it to a cancerous growth or something like that. The answer is in (4) even at the earliest stages of development the "growth" is distinct from the mother. Both in DNA structure and general cell structure itself.
(3/4) Some just deny (3) flat out, but I think my treatment of the concept is fair, we're as certain as anyone can be that this "mass of cells" is going to develop into a human, therefore it should be treated as such.
(5) Again I hear this double-standard from pro-abortionists. One slippery slope this quickly leads to: If a fetus isn't alive until it's removed from it's mother, what happens as technology improves? This will lead to earlier and earlier outside-the-womb viability, does that mean our treatment of such should change? That defeats the purpose of developing an ethical standard. Also, if that line is moveable, then why stop at outside-the-womb viability? It could easily lead to out-and-out infanticide then on to euthanasia and then to genetic cleansing.
(6) There might be more objections but none that I haven't at least somewhat dealt with.
In order to waylay some reactions... I am NOT being misogynistic. The fact that I'm a man and cannot experience this has no bearing on the arguments I've raised. I'm NOT seeking to "take away a woman's choice" or seeking to control a woman's body or choice, at least no more than any other social convention, do mass murderers have the right to choose to buy weapons? Remember a person's rights end when they interfere with another's rights, and this isn't an issue about a woman's right to control her own healthcare, it's about the rights of a fetus.
(1) Human life is intrinsically valuable.
- Within this premise is the concept of invaluable/priceless as in it cannot be measured, counted, or quantified by any utilitarian means. By intrinsic, I'm saying it's not about what someone has done, or will do that makes one valuable, simply that life is valuable because it's life. One cannot exchange life for money nor anything else for that matter.
- The only reason to end a life relates to (2) that is if one uses force to deny someone else their right to life (that is if someone murders someone) their right to life is invalid, that is capital punishment. Also, the idea of war was mentioned in a comment (on Facebook). How could war be justified if all life is valuable? That's just it, war is only valid/justified to stop one person from killing another person/oneself. That is self-defense or defense of the innocent. If one can go to war for any other reason, then any killing is justifiable.
- In regards to the current state of affairs in the US, I can't speak for the government nor against the government, I obey the orders of those appointed over me. It's not my place to make a comment otherwise.
- That is, one's rights end where they infringe on someone else's rights. I have the right to say what I want to say, but when what I say actually hurts another person my right to free speech ends. (Edit: I did some further research on this. There is some precedence for hate speech being censored, but by-and-large hate speech has still been defended and won in high courts. Perhaps a better analogy or example is needed here, I will work on it.)
(4) Even at early stages of development (weeks 1-9) it is medically discernible that the group of cells comprising an embryo is going to develop into a human fetus.
(5) A fetus becomes alive while still in the womb, that is by the typical definition of human life, discernible brain waves. Approximately in the 20th to 36th weeks of pregnancy, as currently measured, not that it doesn't occur earlier, just earliest measurable.
Given the above:
(6) Abortion is wrong, equivalent to manslaughter or murder.
Some background arguments:
For (1), If one rejects this premise than one's own life is invaluable. If one makes a case for non-intrinsic value, then what is human life's value based on?
For (2), This is a loophole of sorts. IF a thieving murderer breaks into your house and threatens you with death, you have every right to self-defense and are perfectly justified in killing that person in self-defense. The same could be said of a pregnancy, if the presence of a fetus in a woman's womb is killing her, with a physician's assistance making that determination she would be justified in killing the fetus. This is a common critique for pro-lifers because many take the stance that it's never justifiable to kill the fetus. I can only make that exception and even so, if the mother determines that it's worth the risk to her own life to provide life for the fetus that's her choice.
For (3), Take this endangered frog, the Panamanian Golden Frog
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For (4), Just as in (3) the eggs/tadpoles are almost certainly going to grow into a living thriving fetus, then baby, then child, then adult. (I realize I left off certain developmental levels, but the argument still stands, if life is precious and the potential for life is also precious then it is clear at all levels it's precious.)
For (5), Why is there a double-standard among abortion advocates that a fetus isn't alive until it's removed from the womb, but a person is alive until they have no readable brain activities? There's an even more telling double-standard when one considers just what we call alive? We refer to viruses and other single-celled organisms as alive, why do we call a fetus a "mass of cells"? I know the reason, but just wanted to point out the double-standard.
For (6), This should be clear. I know there are many counter-arguments, I'll try to cover some of them.
(1) Some answers to the question of the value of a human life try to make it scientific, or some other rationalization. But, no matter at whatever level one deny the value of human life, one opens the argument up to mutability/relativism. Under relativism, one can rationalize pretty much anything including one's own murder.
(2) Some claim that the "mass of cells" is a part of the woman's body and liken it to a cancerous growth or something like that. The answer is in (4) even at the earliest stages of development the "growth" is distinct from the mother. Both in DNA structure and general cell structure itself.
(3/4) Some just deny (3) flat out, but I think my treatment of the concept is fair, we're as certain as anyone can be that this "mass of cells" is going to develop into a human, therefore it should be treated as such.
(5) Again I hear this double-standard from pro-abortionists. One slippery slope this quickly leads to: If a fetus isn't alive until it's removed from it's mother, what happens as technology improves? This will lead to earlier and earlier outside-the-womb viability, does that mean our treatment of such should change? That defeats the purpose of developing an ethical standard. Also, if that line is moveable, then why stop at outside-the-womb viability? It could easily lead to out-and-out infanticide then on to euthanasia and then to genetic cleansing.
(6) There might be more objections but none that I haven't at least somewhat dealt with.
In order to waylay some reactions... I am NOT being misogynistic. The fact that I'm a man and cannot experience this has no bearing on the arguments I've raised. I'm NOT seeking to "take away a woman's choice" or seeking to control a woman's body or choice, at least no more than any other social convention, do mass murderers have the right to choose to buy weapons? Remember a person's rights end when they interfere with another's rights, and this isn't an issue about a woman's right to control her own healthcare, it's about the rights of a fetus.
Wednesday, November 6, 2013
Faith and Philosophy Blog Carnival, November 2013, 10th Edition
Anna M @Don't Forget the Avocados presents Variations on Normal, and How to Control the World posted at Don't Forget the Avocados.
There has only been one entry so far this month that has fit the topic of faith and philosophy or philosophy of religion. I look forward to more entries throughout the month.
There has only been one entry so far this month that has fit the topic of faith and philosophy or philosophy of religion. I look forward to more entries throughout the month.
Sunday, November 3, 2013
Death of Free Will
Calvinism leads to the death of free will. I know that May seem like a serious claim but let's break it down.
Freedom - The ability to do as one wants.
Now, this is a simplistic definition of freedom because there are, most certainly, limitations to freedom. Take for example, I am not free to choose to breath oxygen, freely without mechanical assistance, under water. I'm limited by the laws of physics. I'm also bound by circumstances. For example right this moment I'm not free to go parasailing because I'm sitting in my living room and part of the laws of physics and my circumstances dictates that I cannot parasail at this very moment.
One last, and possibly the most important part of this idea, one cannot go against oneself. Now, before you get in a huff about this and say that I'm Calvinist after all... Listen, there are different levels to a person. For example, I want to eat ice cream right now, but I'm choosing not to do so because my will is overriding my natural desire. Anyone who's ever dieted can attest to this conundrum. I want to but I don't want to and that's okay. In the end I'm still doing what I want on a certain level.
Choice - an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities.
This requires an actor, and two or more options. This doesn't mean that there cannot be agreement between two actors. Take my wife and I together we chose to attend a financial class. We came together and talked about the choice and decided that we agreed we should take this class. That's a different class of choices. We're talking about two separate actors that do not consult each other.
Take Bob. Bob decides to murder his neighbor. Did God choose for Bob to murder his neighbor? There is no evil in God, therefore God could not have gone against His nature to choose murder.
Take Jim. Jim hates the very thought of God. His heroes are Nietzsche and Hitler. Jim is faced with a choice, to murder his neighbor or not. He chooses not to do so. Did God choose this? If all choices are God's choice then He did choose that. But, everything an evil person chooses is evil, so God couldn't have made this choice either because it's an evil choice too because Jim is evil.
Now, if you say God made the decision to let Bob and Jim make those decisions, that is a TOTALLY different position. That is a totally different decision. God didn't decide between the two options to murder or not to murder. That is not an option that God's nature allows. God chose to let Bob and Jim make those decisions.
Within Calvinism there are several ideas that rob everyone of this idea of choice. That is, within Calvinism mankind is limited by his nature to choose; the whole TULIP acronym, Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints means that mankind has absolutely no decision in salvation. Within total depravity, is the concept that mankind has a sinful nature, and as such people cannot choose to love God. Also, this sinful nature is part of mankind's birthright, it has nothing to do with each individual's behavior or anything like that. To a certain extent I can see the point there, but the problem comes when one says that a sinful-natured person cannot go against that nature and choose God.
Freedom - The ability to do as one wants.
Now, this is a simplistic definition of freedom because there are, most certainly, limitations to freedom. Take for example, I am not free to choose to breath oxygen, freely without mechanical assistance, under water. I'm limited by the laws of physics. I'm also bound by circumstances. For example right this moment I'm not free to go parasailing because I'm sitting in my living room and part of the laws of physics and my circumstances dictates that I cannot parasail at this very moment.
One last, and possibly the most important part of this idea, one cannot go against oneself. Now, before you get in a huff about this and say that I'm Calvinist after all... Listen, there are different levels to a person. For example, I want to eat ice cream right now, but I'm choosing not to do so because my will is overriding my natural desire. Anyone who's ever dieted can attest to this conundrum. I want to but I don't want to and that's okay. In the end I'm still doing what I want on a certain level.
Choice - an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities.
This requires an actor, and two or more options. This doesn't mean that there cannot be agreement between two actors. Take my wife and I together we chose to attend a financial class. We came together and talked about the choice and decided that we agreed we should take this class. That's a different class of choices. We're talking about two separate actors that do not consult each other.
Take Bob. Bob decides to murder his neighbor. Did God choose for Bob to murder his neighbor? There is no evil in God, therefore God could not have gone against His nature to choose murder.
Take Jim. Jim hates the very thought of God. His heroes are Nietzsche and Hitler. Jim is faced with a choice, to murder his neighbor or not. He chooses not to do so. Did God choose this? If all choices are God's choice then He did choose that. But, everything an evil person chooses is evil, so God couldn't have made this choice either because it's an evil choice too because Jim is evil.
If God makes all choices then God is evil.
Now, if you say God made the decision to let Bob and Jim make those decisions, that is a TOTALLY different position. That is a totally different decision. God didn't decide between the two options to murder or not to murder. That is not an option that God's nature allows. God chose to let Bob and Jim make those decisions.
Within Calvinism there are several ideas that rob everyone of this idea of choice. That is, within Calvinism mankind is limited by his nature to choose; the whole TULIP acronym, Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints means that mankind has absolutely no decision in salvation. Within total depravity, is the concept that mankind has a sinful nature, and as such people cannot choose to love God. Also, this sinful nature is part of mankind's birthright, it has nothing to do with each individual's behavior or anything like that. To a certain extent I can see the point there, but the problem comes when one says that a sinful-natured person cannot go against that nature and choose God.
In this Calvinist view, mankind cannot be said to be punished for individual choices, only the choices of Adam/Eve. They're the only people who have ever been able to make the choice to love God or disobey Him, ever since that one fateful decision all mankind has been doomed to hell. Don't get me wrong, I feel the Bible more or less supports that idea (Rom. 5:12ff). The problem is this, if no one can choose to do good ever, that means that mankind is doomed to hell not based on his own decision but based on the decisions of someone else. That isn't freedom, that's slavery. Now, yes, we are slaves to sin and after forgiveness we're slaves to righteousness so, we're always enslaved, but here's the kicker, how can we be punished for our nature? That'd be like me being punished because I'm red-haired. So, according to this view, I'm a slave because I was born a slave and I'll be punished to everlasting torment because I didn't win the lottery?
Here's the second issue, Unconditional Election especially when coupled with Irresistible Grace. They also together remove all choice from mankind. So, according to Calvinism, not only can I not make the decision because of my sinful nature, God specifically chooses exactly who gets saved. Now, don't misunderstand me, I think in a certain way God chooses. God is omniscient, which would mean that He knows who does and who doesn't want to be saved, and God is omnipotent, which means that He could work in such a way that makes whomever He wills choose salvation. But, again, that's not freedom. Being chosen by God as a random (that's the unconditional part, meaning it's not contingent on our actions or choices) recipient of grace and forgiveness is not freedom. Especially with the idea of irresistible grace. Not only can we not choose God, but if chosen we cannot resist, we cannot go against His choice in us.
So, where's this free will again? Oh, it's dead. It was recently engaged in so strong an argument that I would rather be an atheist than a Calvinist. If this God that Calvinists believe in is really that terrible I don't want anything to do with it. Maybe it's supposedly more biblical as some seem to believe, but it's certainly not rational.
I found yet another site about Calvinism and the first point it tries to make is that "man is one hundred percent responsible for his behavior." I found this interesting site also which makes it clear that the Bible teaches that mankind can make free choices. "Luke reports that, “by refusing to be baptized by [John], the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected God’s purpose for themselves” (Luke 7:30, emphasis added). How could Scripture be more explicit than that? So too, in Isaiah the Lord says, “Oh, rebellious children…who carry out a plan, but not mine; who make an alliance, but against my will, adding sin to sin” (Is. 30:1). Again, how could Scripture get any clearer than that?" So, which is it? Did the Pharisees actually reject God? Not according to Calvinism, they were born rejecting God as part of their sin nature, not as any actual choice of their own. So, how is man responsible for his own choices if his choices are
I realize that philosophically speaking having at least two options presented to an individual is all that's required for choice. However, I would posit that there's more to it than that simple concept. I believe that for a choice to be real the different options have to be viable options. Like in the examples in Calvinism the sinful human cannot choose God/good because of a born-in predilection to sin. That is not a real choice.
If Calvinism is right then John the Baptist was wrong in saying: "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"
In summary, I still believe in God. I will always believe in God. Also, I believe Christianity (really the Bible) has the best description of God available for mankind. I will never and can never accept that Calvinism has the answers to the nature of Christianity/salvation. I know I may be missing something, but as it stands, I don't think I will ever be dissuaded from holding that view.
I found yet another site about Calvinism and the first point it tries to make is that "man is one hundred percent responsible for his behavior." I found this interesting site also which makes it clear that the Bible teaches that mankind can make free choices. "Luke reports that, “by refusing to be baptized by [John], the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected God’s purpose for themselves” (Luke 7:30, emphasis added). How could Scripture be more explicit than that? So too, in Isaiah the Lord says, “Oh, rebellious children…who carry out a plan, but not mine; who make an alliance, but against my will, adding sin to sin” (Is. 30:1). Again, how could Scripture get any clearer than that?" So, which is it? Did the Pharisees actually reject God? Not according to Calvinism, they were born rejecting God as part of their sin nature, not as any actual choice of their own. So, how is man responsible for his own choices if his choices are
I realize that philosophically speaking having at least two options presented to an individual is all that's required for choice. However, I would posit that there's more to it than that simple concept. I believe that for a choice to be real the different options have to be viable options. Like in the examples in Calvinism the sinful human cannot choose God/good because of a born-in predilection to sin. That is not a real choice.
If Calvinism is right then John the Baptist was wrong in saying: "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"
In summary, I still believe in God. I will always believe in God. Also, I believe Christianity (really the Bible) has the best description of God available for mankind. I will never and can never accept that Calvinism has the answers to the nature of Christianity/salvation. I know I may be missing something, but as it stands, I don't think I will ever be dissuaded from holding that view.
Thursday, October 31, 2013
Pop Culture Surprise
I have a general distaste for pop culture, especially the music scene, so I was pleasantly surprised the other day when I heard this song and it actually has meaningful lyrics that teach a positive message. So much of pop culture today is telling kids to go out and do whatever they want, to eat drink and be merry for tomorrow you may die (generally that last bit is left off, who wants to be a Debbie Downer?). Then when I hear this song:
"Who Says"I italicized the part that really stuck out to me (also, I took out all the "Na na na na's," which there were many). It's nice to see a positive message coming out of something that's usually as shallow as this example:
I wouldn't wanna be anybody else, hey
[1st Vs]
You made me insecure, Told me I wasn’t good enough.
But who are you to judge; When you’re a diamond in the rough?
I’m sure you got some things; You’d like to change about yourself.
But when it comes to me; I wouldn’t want to be anybody else.
I’m no beauty queenI’m just beautiful me
You’ve got every right; To a beautiful life; C'mon
[Chorus:]
Who says, who says you're not perfect? Who says you're not worth it?
Who says you're the only one that's hurtin'? Trust me, that's the price of beauty
Who says you're not pretty? Who says you're not beautiful?
Who says?
[2nd Vs]
It’s such a funny thing; How nothing’s funny when it’s you
You tell ‘em what you mean; But they keep whiting out the truth
It’s like a work of art; That never gets to see the light
Keep you beneath the stars; Won’t let you touch the sky
I’m no beauty queenI’m just beautiful me
You’ve got every right; To a beautiful life; C'mon
[Chorus]
[Bridge:]
Who says you’re not star potential? Who says you’re not presidential?
Who says you can’t be in movies? Listen to me, listen to me
Who says you don’t pass the test? Who says you can’t be the best?
Who said, who said? Would you tell me who said that?
Yeah, who said?
[Chorus]
Who says you're not perfect? Who says you're not worth it?
Who says you're the only one that's hurtin'?
Trust me (yeah), that's the price of beauty; Who says you're not pretty?
Who says you're not beautiful?
Who says?
"Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)"
There's a stranger in my bed,
There's a pounding in my head
Glitter all over the room
Pink flamingos in the pool
I smell like a minibar
DJ's passed out in the yard
Barbie's on the barbeque
This a hickie or a bruise
Pictures of last night
Ended up online
I'm screwed
Oh well
It's a blacked out blur
But I'm pretty sure it ruled
Damn
Last Friday night
Yeah, we danced on tabletops
And we took too many shots
Think we kissed but I forgot
Last Friday nightThe song goes on, but I'm sure you get the point. I wasn't able to read through all the different song lyrics by either of those two artists, Selena Gomez and Katy Perry (I didn't listen to them all either), but I didn't really notice a trend either direction for either artist. It's like they, on a whim, decided to sing these good or terrible songs. Honestly, I have no delusions of grandeur for these artists. I would assume they don't really have much say in the content of their works, so I don't really blame the artists as much as the producers. I could be wrong on that account and it could be more of the artists than I think. Regardless, whoever is responsible, I thank them. (Lyrics by: www.azlyrics.com)
Yeah, we maxed our credit cards
And got kicked out of the bar
So we hit the boulevard
Wednesday, October 23, 2013
Splitting Hairs Theologically Speaking
I've recently been studying theology as part of my major at Liberty University Online. I'm currently taking Theology 201 and let's just say, it's been an uh, interesting time. To me, when it comes to religion I've always been very inclusionary. Especially when I hear discussions about doctrinal issues in churches that actually drive people away from God, or make people not want to come to church. That's one of the reasons I've always like apologetics more than theology. It seems that apologetics is about bringing people together to reason about the things of faith, but theology is about arguing the minutiae about what "[f]or in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form" exactly means.
The reason I bring that particular verse is the subject in theology class for the last two weeks has been Christology. I won't go into the details, because I'm sure many of you don't care, but even though the class has interesting things to teach me, I don't really like the divisiveness of theology in general. Take Christology for an example. It is vitally important to accept that Jesus Christ is God and man, called hypostatic union. Now, how Christ did so, is called kenosis (κÎνωσις) that relates to "pouring out" from Philippians 2. Now, as an amateur philosopher, these ideas pose some interesting problems. How can two completely different things occupy the same exact space at the same time? Obviously, nothing is to difficult for God, as Mary was told when she questioned the impossibility of her giving birth. But, as Prof Kreeft taught in one of his lectures on the Philosophy of Thomas Aquinas, God is the God of logic and we shouldn't claim God breaks the laws of logic (even though I've thought that way before).
Now, maybe it's just a problem of teaching. Because as much as I don't like to bash the college from which I'm seeking a degree, I don't feel like there's anyone to explain why these theological puzzles are the way they are. On that topic of Christology, there was a section in the textbook about the wrong views of kenosis. One of them said something to the effect of Christ set aside His attributes of deity when He was born on earth as our Savior. However, according to the text, the "right" view is that Christ "veiled" His attributes of deity. As I'm reading this section, I couldn't help but think that there's such a fine line there and does it really make a difference? It's obvious from various parts of the Gospel accounts Jesus is limited. Like, He doesn't know various facts that an omniscient God would know. In fact He specifically says, that He doesn't know (Matt 24:36). So, obviously Jesus didn't have His attribute of omniscience. But wait, He did have knowledge that no mere man could have. In several places it's said of Jesus that He knew what was in their hearts or a similar phrase.
All these doubts can be explained in the simple fact that God is omnipotent and nothing is too difficult for Him, as was noted before. But, that makes this a mysterious concept and I distrust anyone who claims complete knowledge of any detail of these high-level theological questions. I really have a problem with people who not only claim to have the truth but also reject those that partially disagree with their view. I talk about this all the time, though I don't see any past entries about this... I really dislike any teaching or theology that drives people away from Christ.
Now, don't get me wrong, theology is important, and it's important to make sure we have definitions that match the teachings found in the Bible. But, as my dad always liked to say, "let's keep the main thing the main thing." As part of my studies I think it's important in my life to draw a line in the sand theologically speaking. Here's an important thing to remember though, while I hold the following list to be true and in accordance with God's Word as revealed in the Bible. If there's a mistake or a misunderstanding in the following list I can revise it without feeling I've betrayed myself somehow. Everyone makes mistakes, I could be misunderstanding something and that's okay.
God the Father:
Almighty maker of Heaven and Earth infinite, holy and actively working in the world today.
God the Son:
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, second person in the trinity, coequal with God the Father and Holy Spirit who came to earth as a man.
God the Holy Spirit:
The third member of the Trinity who is always working to convict of sins, persuade unbelievers, and comfort the saints.
The Bible:
God's inerrant Word, His Truths written by men as they were carried along in the Spirit that we might hide in our hearts that we might not sin against God.
The Depravity of Mankind:
All have sinned and no one can save oneself from sin's hold.
Salvation:
Salvation is not by works but only through the saving work of Jesus Christ through His death and resurrection.
Resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Jesus Christ bodily rose from the dead on the third day, and it is through that work that sin and death are defeated.
Return of Jesus Christ:
Jesus Christ could return at any moment and His followers should live with that in mind.
Resurrection of the Dead:
Just as Christ rose from the grave and rules in Heaven, believers and all the dead in Christ shall someday join Him in everlasting peace and joy in Heaven.
Church Family:
As followers of Christ we need to be happily and actively involved in a local community of believers.
I've purposely left certain dividing terminology out, e.g. "Total Depravity." I've recently had a long discussion with my theologian/friend +James Hooks and he makes a powerful argument for Calvinism/Reformed Theology. But, I still don't see eye to eye with all the views in Calvinism. Mainly because how it is apparently irreconcilable with the concept of free will. I'm sure the answer there lies in some different definition of freedom and will, but that still doesn't work with the way I view free will and choice. I'll save that for a future entry.
This same list is now on a separate tab as I'd like to join with other believers that agree with these statements to join me in sharing through this site. I've put out the call several times, but apparently no one is interested in sharing. The invitation still stands, if you agree with these statements of faith, and would like to share your thoughts on my blog I welcome you. That doesn't mean that I won't host people that disagree with these statements, as I've hosted several entries in the past even from people that I don't really know, including the regular Faith and Philosophy Blog Carnival. What I mean to say, is that if you would like to partner with me in this blog you'll have to agree with this statement of faith, but if you have something you'd like to share, as long as it doesn't contain any ad hominem attacks or illogical/irrational statements, I'd still welcome dissenting entries. As the (current) sole administrator of this blog I reserve the right to refuse any entries. Though I commit to fairly assess any entries and give my response with reasons for acceptance or denial of any entry.
The reason I bring that particular verse is the subject in theology class for the last two weeks has been Christology. I won't go into the details, because I'm sure many of you don't care, but even though the class has interesting things to teach me, I don't really like the divisiveness of theology in general. Take Christology for an example. It is vitally important to accept that Jesus Christ is God and man, called hypostatic union. Now, how Christ did so, is called kenosis (κÎνωσις) that relates to "pouring out" from Philippians 2. Now, as an amateur philosopher, these ideas pose some interesting problems. How can two completely different things occupy the same exact space at the same time? Obviously, nothing is to difficult for God, as Mary was told when she questioned the impossibility of her giving birth. But, as Prof Kreeft taught in one of his lectures on the Philosophy of Thomas Aquinas, God is the God of logic and we shouldn't claim God breaks the laws of logic (even though I've thought that way before).
Now, maybe it's just a problem of teaching. Because as much as I don't like to bash the college from which I'm seeking a degree, I don't feel like there's anyone to explain why these theological puzzles are the way they are. On that topic of Christology, there was a section in the textbook about the wrong views of kenosis. One of them said something to the effect of Christ set aside His attributes of deity when He was born on earth as our Savior. However, according to the text, the "right" view is that Christ "veiled" His attributes of deity. As I'm reading this section, I couldn't help but think that there's such a fine line there and does it really make a difference? It's obvious from various parts of the Gospel accounts Jesus is limited. Like, He doesn't know various facts that an omniscient God would know. In fact He specifically says, that He doesn't know (Matt 24:36). So, obviously Jesus didn't have His attribute of omniscience. But wait, He did have knowledge that no mere man could have. In several places it's said of Jesus that He knew what was in their hearts or a similar phrase.
All these doubts can be explained in the simple fact that God is omnipotent and nothing is too difficult for Him, as was noted before. But, that makes this a mysterious concept and I distrust anyone who claims complete knowledge of any detail of these high-level theological questions. I really have a problem with people who not only claim to have the truth but also reject those that partially disagree with their view. I talk about this all the time, though I don't see any past entries about this... I really dislike any teaching or theology that drives people away from Christ.
Now, don't get me wrong, theology is important, and it's important to make sure we have definitions that match the teachings found in the Bible. But, as my dad always liked to say, "let's keep the main thing the main thing." As part of my studies I think it's important in my life to draw a line in the sand theologically speaking. Here's an important thing to remember though, while I hold the following list to be true and in accordance with God's Word as revealed in the Bible. If there's a mistake or a misunderstanding in the following list I can revise it without feeling I've betrayed myself somehow. Everyone makes mistakes, I could be misunderstanding something and that's okay.
God the Father:
Almighty maker of Heaven and Earth infinite, holy and actively working in the world today.
God the Son:
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, second person in the trinity, coequal with God the Father and Holy Spirit who came to earth as a man.
God the Holy Spirit:
The third member of the Trinity who is always working to convict of sins, persuade unbelievers, and comfort the saints.
The Bible:
God's inerrant Word, His Truths written by men as they were carried along in the Spirit that we might hide in our hearts that we might not sin against God.
The Depravity of Mankind:
All have sinned and no one can save oneself from sin's hold.
Salvation:
Salvation is not by works but only through the saving work of Jesus Christ through His death and resurrection.
Resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Jesus Christ bodily rose from the dead on the third day, and it is through that work that sin and death are defeated.
Return of Jesus Christ:
Jesus Christ could return at any moment and His followers should live with that in mind.
Resurrection of the Dead:
Just as Christ rose from the grave and rules in Heaven, believers and all the dead in Christ shall someday join Him in everlasting peace and joy in Heaven.
Church Family:
As followers of Christ we need to be happily and actively involved in a local community of believers.
I've purposely left certain dividing terminology out, e.g. "Total Depravity." I've recently had a long discussion with my theologian/friend +James Hooks and he makes a powerful argument for Calvinism/Reformed Theology. But, I still don't see eye to eye with all the views in Calvinism. Mainly because how it is apparently irreconcilable with the concept of free will. I'm sure the answer there lies in some different definition of freedom and will, but that still doesn't work with the way I view free will and choice. I'll save that for a future entry.
This same list is now on a separate tab as I'd like to join with other believers that agree with these statements to join me in sharing through this site. I've put out the call several times, but apparently no one is interested in sharing. The invitation still stands, if you agree with these statements of faith, and would like to share your thoughts on my blog I welcome you. That doesn't mean that I won't host people that disagree with these statements, as I've hosted several entries in the past even from people that I don't really know, including the regular Faith and Philosophy Blog Carnival. What I mean to say, is that if you would like to partner with me in this blog you'll have to agree with this statement of faith, but if you have something you'd like to share, as long as it doesn't contain any ad hominem attacks or illogical/irrational statements, I'd still welcome dissenting entries. As the (current) sole administrator of this blog I reserve the right to refuse any entries. Though I commit to fairly assess any entries and give my response with reasons for acceptance or denial of any entry.
Sunday, October 13, 2013
Vagueness
I've been thinking about this for a while and I'd like to address it here.
As a bit of background, I've often mentioned the History of Philosophy podcast. Unfortunately, I don't get the chance to take notes, so I'll be honest, I don't remember many of the names of the philosophers mentioned in the podcast. The other day however, one of the Hellenistic philosophers had a thought lesson that goes something like this.
This basically falls into the philosophy of language subset of philosophy but it has serious ramifications for all levels of philosophy. Think about it, the term "human" as clear as it seems, has at least some vagueness to it. From Dictionary.com; the Science Dictionary, "A member of the species Homo sapiens; a human being." A member of any of the extinct species of the genus Homo, such as Homo erectus or Homo habilis, that are considered ancestral or closely related to modern humans. Assuming darwinian or neo-darwinian evolution, when does that start? How many human characteristics does something need to have to be human? How can you define something so vague? No matter how detailed a dictionary may be, there's always going to be some level of vagueness.
Obviously I've picked one of the hardest definitions to start out with, but this relates to epistemology as well. If there's skepticism in everything including definitional issues, how can we communicate at all? How are you reading this blog? What if you don't even define blog the same way as I do? Granted my definition is the correct one! Obviously we're standing on some amount of common ground, but that brings up what type(s) of common ground we need to communicate. There's vagueness within my talk about vagueness. Definitions, what's a definition? We need a definition of definition before we can talk about vagueness because we need that common ground. Are definitions subject to the will of the people? Dictionaries change and disagree, which one do we trust? Even if we agree on which dictionary we should use, what about when dictionaries change? Do we both agree with the new definition? What about what made the definition change, do we agree on the reason why the dictionary decided to change the definition?
Now that we've not decided on that bit of common ground, now we need to decide how much common ground we need to have before we can communicate. So we don't completely completely agree on the exact word-for-word definition of each and every word used in this discussion, does that mean we can't communicate? Apparently not, because I'm assuming you can read and understand what I'm writing here. So now, even if we have a level of acceptable vagueness in definitions and definition change, what about agreeing on how much difference is acceptable? There's vagueness in the amount of vagueness acceptable for communication.
I don't have any answers for you here, only questions. Just casting doubt on everything we say and the very basics of communication.
As a bit of background, I've often mentioned the History of Philosophy podcast. Unfortunately, I don't get the chance to take notes, so I'll be honest, I don't remember many of the names of the philosophers mentioned in the podcast. The other day however, one of the Hellenistic philosophers had a thought lesson that goes something like this.
Philosopher: Here is one grain of sand. Is it a "heap of sand"?This speaks to many different issues, one of which was that the sage (wise man) will withhold judgement, and the topic I have been thinking about, vagueness.
Respondent: No of course not.
P: Here is two grains, it is a heap?
R: No.
P: Here are three, it is a heap?
R: No.
.... This continues, then eventually the respondent will answer, "Yes."
P: Let me take away one grain of sand, is it still a "heap"?
R: Well...
P: Certainly you don't mean to tell me that ONE grain of sand constitutes a "heap of sand" because earlier you said it wasn't.
This basically falls into the philosophy of language subset of philosophy but it has serious ramifications for all levels of philosophy. Think about it, the term "human" as clear as it seems, has at least some vagueness to it. From Dictionary.com; the Science Dictionary, "A member of the species Homo sapiens; a human being." A member of any of the extinct species of the genus Homo, such as Homo erectus or Homo habilis, that are considered ancestral or closely related to modern humans. Assuming darwinian or neo-darwinian evolution, when does that start? How many human characteristics does something need to have to be human? How can you define something so vague? No matter how detailed a dictionary may be, there's always going to be some level of vagueness.
Obviously I've picked one of the hardest definitions to start out with, but this relates to epistemology as well. If there's skepticism in everything including definitional issues, how can we communicate at all? How are you reading this blog? What if you don't even define blog the same way as I do? Granted my definition is the correct one! Obviously we're standing on some amount of common ground, but that brings up what type(s) of common ground we need to communicate. There's vagueness within my talk about vagueness. Definitions, what's a definition? We need a definition of definition before we can talk about vagueness because we need that common ground. Are definitions subject to the will of the people? Dictionaries change and disagree, which one do we trust? Even if we agree on which dictionary we should use, what about when dictionaries change? Do we both agree with the new definition? What about what made the definition change, do we agree on the reason why the dictionary decided to change the definition?
Now that we've not decided on that bit of common ground, now we need to decide how much common ground we need to have before we can communicate. So we don't completely completely agree on the exact word-for-word definition of each and every word used in this discussion, does that mean we can't communicate? Apparently not, because I'm assuming you can read and understand what I'm writing here. So now, even if we have a level of acceptable vagueness in definitions and definition change, what about agreeing on how much difference is acceptable? There's vagueness in the amount of vagueness acceptable for communication.
I don't have any answers for you here, only questions. Just casting doubt on everything we say and the very basics of communication.
Friday, October 11, 2013
Faith and Philosophy Blog Carnival, October 2013, 9th Edition
Sorry for the delay in posting, but we've had bad weather here and I've been busy with schoolwork and there haven't really been very many entries this month.
Mark David Henderson presents Do Christians and Atheists View Reason differently? | The Soul of Atlas posted at The Soul of Atlas.
Shahzad Rupani presents Story Of Tunnel Theory posted at Once Upon a Life.
These are all the submissions that "made the cut" this month so far. I have started being more selective in what submissions are shared in the carnival. ONLY entries that are about the relationship between faith and reason or philosophy are included. Entries that are only about faith or only about philosophy are not included. I will admit that even a tenuous link will be considered a connection between the two and will (most likely) be shared. Thank you to all the submissions and I hope there will be many more to come.
Mark David Henderson presents Do Christians and Atheists View Reason differently? | The Soul of Atlas posted at The Soul of Atlas.
Shahzad Rupani presents Story Of Tunnel Theory posted at Once Upon a Life.
These are all the submissions that "made the cut" this month so far. I have started being more selective in what submissions are shared in the carnival. ONLY entries that are about the relationship between faith and reason or philosophy are included. Entries that are only about faith or only about philosophy are not included. I will admit that even a tenuous link will be considered a connection between the two and will (most likely) be shared. Thank you to all the submissions and I hope there will be many more to come.
Wednesday, September 25, 2013
Intermission
Obviously I haven't been able to continue my writings on my series on the philosophy of Thomas Aquinas but here's the kicker. My lack of time for the series is hindering me from writing any other entries. Honestly, I haven't had much to write about lately but I think I'm going to pause the series to write more on random topics. I've been busy with college courses online and I don't really have that much time to write, but now I won't have the series getting in the way of writing other things. Well, I'm sorry for the long delay and I'll get back to writing as much as I have time for soon.
Also, I have a request... I've been trying to revamp my website to be a collaborative blog site for philosophers/theologians that are wanting to share their ideas together. If any of you are interested, please submit entries and your testimony or statement of beliefs via the "Contact Me" tab above. That's one of the reasons I'm taking a break from the series on Aquinas, I feel a bit swamped as the only writer for this blog and I would like to join with others and share the load of coming up with content.
One last thing, I've recently started another site for my photography pieces. The site is http://samuelronicker.smugmug.com/ and I plan on sharing as many of my photos there that I can. I will probably only upload the best of my photos there, but they are available for purchase from the smugmug printing company, and in the interest of full disclosure I do get some amount of commission on each sale of my picture(s).
Also, I have a request... I've been trying to revamp my website to be a collaborative blog site for philosophers/theologians that are wanting to share their ideas together. If any of you are interested, please submit entries and your testimony or statement of beliefs via the "Contact Me" tab above. That's one of the reasons I'm taking a break from the series on Aquinas, I feel a bit swamped as the only writer for this blog and I would like to join with others and share the load of coming up with content.
One last thing, I've recently started another site for my photography pieces. The site is http://samuelronicker.smugmug.com/ and I plan on sharing as many of my photos there that I can. I will probably only upload the best of my photos there, but they are available for purchase from the smugmug printing company, and in the interest of full disclosure I do get some amount of commission on each sale of my picture(s).
Saturday, September 7, 2013
Faith and Philosophy Blog Carnival, September 2013, 8th Edition
Joshua Tilghman presents The Deeper Mystery of the Virgin Birth posted at The Spirit of the Scripture.
So far, this is the only entry that has fit the carnival topics of faith and philosophy. Thank you all for your submissions so far if more submissions come in that fit the topic, I'll add them to the carnival.
The Philosophy of Thomas Aquinas: Part 5: Our Knowledge of and Language About God
Continuing the series on the philosophy of Thomas Aquinas with lecture five how much can we know about God and what we can say about God. Let's jump right in, Prof Kreeft starts off with an analogy of the premodern thinking with a preteen child, interested in the world around them, curious and asking questions about objective reality like, "what is God?" They spend less time than modern thinkers who asked more subjective questions like, "How can we know God?" or "How can we express our knowledge of God?" One is not better than the other, just different.
The three questions laid out are the same anyone can ask of anything, What is it? How can we know it? and How can we express it or communicate it? The Greek word Logos (λόγος) is a powerful word to express all these ideas together, intelligible being/reality, human knowledge/wisdom/reason/science, and language/communication. The ancients/premoderns focused on the first part, metaphysics, and moderns, starting with Descartes, were more concerned with the second question, epistemology.
After Thomas' five ways to God he summarizes the way he's going to approach these questions about knowing God (as quoted in the lecture notes, the brackets are Prof Kreeft's interjection):
Creation, this doesn't tell us much about God, but it does tell us some. As Thomas' five ways show that God created the universe, now the fact that He did so tells us a bit about Him.
Cosmic Hierarchy, implied in creation is a sort of hierarchy that God is the top of the cosmic ladder of existence and mankind is somewhere on this ladder below God. Incidentally, Thomas didn't think you could prove the existence of angels, but he thought it would certainly make sense that there be at least one level of existence between God and mankind, just as there are different levels between mankind and a slug.
Analogy of being, this goes along the same lines as cosmic hierarchy that along the cosmic ladder of existence there are bit of analogy. In the case of life, there is an analogy in that there are lower forms of life but they're still life and there are higher forms of life. The highest in divine life, not that God's existence mirrors ours but that we mirror God's existence because we get our existence from Him. This same chain of analogy is in logos/orderliness. Even the simplest pieces of matter are orderly. In fact, to me the more order we see at these "lower" levels is a clear indication of design. So, along the rungs of this ladder of analogy the higher levels have more order and reflect God's orderliness (and other characteristics) better. Until you get to the top of the ladder, God, from which all orderliness and design comes.
Divine reason, this is not some mystical experience, it's more akin to the idea that all logic and reason finds its source in God. This part of the lecture actually reminds me of presuppositional apologetics (as I've discussed with +James Hooks a few times). To medieval logicians there were three basic acts to the mind conception, judgement, and reasoning from judgements. First, one must recognize concepts, "man," "apple," "animal," "is," "not" etc. Then one judges from these simple concepts, "man is an animal," "apples are not animals." Then finally, the reasonable moving from premises to conclusion(s) "therefore man is not an apple." Thomas is referring to all three of these acts in saying that man's intelligence is a dim reflection of God's divine intelligence. God doesn't have to judge and reason, He just knows everything all the time, but mankind as a small reflection of that, can only do bit by bit. As a dim reflection of God, we share in His divine reason/intelligence as participating in His intelligence. One of the main presuppositions in this part of the argument is that God is rational/mind, not just a blind force. There are many assumptions in Thomas' philosophy as it's more like a mapping of a complex universe than the dry-step-by-step-deduction-only-philosophy of the moderns.
Now, in light of these four assumptions we should try to understand what Thomas actually says about knowledge of God. Remember that he's closer to agnosticism than rationalism (gnosticism). Prof
Kreeft has this to say about the articles immediately preceding the ways to God in the Summa, "...God’s existence is not self-evident to us, though it is self-evident in itself. So it has to be made evident to us... God is not directly and innately known—our mind is not that strong—but His existence can be made known by reason, can be demonstrated—our mind is not too weak for that." (Quote from the lecture notes, emphasis mine.) This is from the next part of the Summa about being able to know about God.
There are two levels of understanding here that we must distinguish. Comprehension and apprehension, we as created beings will never be able to surround in knowledge, God. But, we will someday, be able to apprehend God. Just how far can we get? Thomas give four things we can know: He exists, He is the cause of creation, that He has a certain deducible attributes, and what He is not: He is not a creature and not at the same level as creatures. In His being, He is infinite, unlimited being in itself, while creatures only have being in a limited way sourced from God.
According to Thomas outside of analogical knowledge our knowledge of God is only negative. The reason for this is the fact that we are created, finite creatures and cannot know by experience things that apply only to God, like infinitude. We can see the art that only resembles the Artist but we cannot know all that is in the Artist.
This next bit I really liked so I'm just going to let Prof Kreeft speak for himself (quote taken from the lecture study guide):
This next question is also eloquently answered by Prof Kreeft, it's the question commonly brought up even as recent as this post on Google+. The answer isn't really all that complicated! It's a linguistic problem, that goes something like this: God has infinite power so asking this question is like asking if a rock could exist that infinite power couldn't pick up. So, the easy answer is no, but not that God isn't all-powerful, it's a misunderstanding of infinite power. A similar answer can be given to many of the questions concerning God. Who created God? That's like asking, what existed/happened before infinity past? That's a contradiction. My personal view is that we shouldn't limit God to a logical anwer, but within our limited perspective, these questions don't make any sense.
The three questions laid out are the same anyone can ask of anything, What is it? How can we know it? and How can we express it or communicate it? The Greek word Logos (λόγος) is a powerful word to express all these ideas together, intelligible being/reality, human knowledge/wisdom/reason/science, and language/communication. The ancients/premoderns focused on the first part, metaphysics, and moderns, starting with Descartes, were more concerned with the second question, epistemology.
After Thomas' five ways to God he summarizes the way he's going to approach these questions about knowing God (as quoted in the lecture notes, the brackets are Prof Kreeft's interjection):
"When the existence of a thing has been ascertained, there remains the further question of the manner of its existence, in order that we may know its essence. [“Essence” means “manner of existence” for Aquinas.] Now . . . we cannot know what God is but rather what He is not . . . therefore we must consider, first, how He is not, second, how He is known by us, and third, how He is named."Though Thomas believes that faith, divine revelation, and religious experience are all valid ways of knowing God, this discussion focuses on philosophical/epistemological knowledge by natural reason. Thomas seeks to show that there are (at least) four metaphysical principles that answer how man can know God: creation, cosmic hierarchy, the analogy of being, and human reason as participating in divine reason. If any one of these weren't true then man couldn't know God by natural reason.
Creation, this doesn't tell us much about God, but it does tell us some. As Thomas' five ways show that God created the universe, now the fact that He did so tells us a bit about Him.
From effects not proportionate to the cause no perfect knowledge of the cause can be obtained. Yet from every effect the existence of its cause can be clearly demonstrated, and so we can demonstrate the existence of God from His effects even though from them we cannot know God as He is in His essence.So we can know that God is a God of cause by the effects we see, though that doesn't tell us much about Him. Not a complete rationalist/gnostic or agnostic, but a little more agnostic.
Cosmic Hierarchy, implied in creation is a sort of hierarchy that God is the top of the cosmic ladder of existence and mankind is somewhere on this ladder below God. Incidentally, Thomas didn't think you could prove the existence of angels, but he thought it would certainly make sense that there be at least one level of existence between God and mankind, just as there are different levels between mankind and a slug.
Analogy of being, this goes along the same lines as cosmic hierarchy that along the cosmic ladder of existence there are bit of analogy. In the case of life, there is an analogy in that there are lower forms of life but they're still life and there are higher forms of life. The highest in divine life, not that God's existence mirrors ours but that we mirror God's existence because we get our existence from Him. This same chain of analogy is in logos/orderliness. Even the simplest pieces of matter are orderly. In fact, to me the more order we see at these "lower" levels is a clear indication of design. So, along the rungs of this ladder of analogy the higher levels have more order and reflect God's orderliness (and other characteristics) better. Until you get to the top of the ladder, God, from which all orderliness and design comes.
Divine reason, this is not some mystical experience, it's more akin to the idea that all logic and reason finds its source in God. This part of the lecture actually reminds me of presuppositional apologetics (as I've discussed with +James Hooks a few times). To medieval logicians there were three basic acts to the mind conception, judgement, and reasoning from judgements. First, one must recognize concepts, "man," "apple," "animal," "is," "not" etc. Then one judges from these simple concepts, "man is an animal," "apples are not animals." Then finally, the reasonable moving from premises to conclusion(s) "therefore man is not an apple." Thomas is referring to all three of these acts in saying that man's intelligence is a dim reflection of God's divine intelligence. God doesn't have to judge and reason, He just knows everything all the time, but mankind as a small reflection of that, can only do bit by bit. As a dim reflection of God, we share in His divine reason/intelligence as participating in His intelligence. One of the main presuppositions in this part of the argument is that God is rational/mind, not just a blind force. There are many assumptions in Thomas' philosophy as it's more like a mapping of a complex universe than the dry-step-by-step-deduction-only-philosophy of the moderns.
Now, in light of these four assumptions we should try to understand what Thomas actually says about knowledge of God. Remember that he's closer to agnosticism than rationalism (gnosticism). Prof
Kreeft has this to say about the articles immediately preceding the ways to God in the Summa, "...God’s existence is not self-evident to us, though it is self-evident in itself. So it has to be made evident to us... God is not directly and innately known—our mind is not that strong—but His existence can be made known by reason, can be demonstrated—our mind is not too weak for that." (Quote from the lecture notes, emphasis mine.) This is from the next part of the Summa about being able to know about God.
Since the ultimate beatitude of man consists in the use of his highest power, which is the operation of the mind, if we suppose that the created intellect can never see God, it would either never attain to beatitude or its beatitude would consist in something else besides God. This opinion is against reason, for there resides in every man a natural desire to know the cause of any effect which he sees, and thus arises wonder in man. But if the intellect of the rational creature could not reach so far as to the first cause of things, this natural desire would remain void. But no natural desire is in vain.So, we may not be able to fully know God in this life but we will attain sure knowledge of God in the next. Thomas uses this statement many times, that “no natural desire is in vain.” Seems reasonable to assume that the desire for a more perfect understanding of something and that that desire can be fulfilled though perhaps not fully in this life.
There are two levels of understanding here that we must distinguish. Comprehension and apprehension, we as created beings will never be able to surround in knowledge, God. But, we will someday, be able to apprehend God. Just how far can we get? Thomas give four things we can know: He exists, He is the cause of creation, that He has a certain deducible attributes, and what He is not: He is not a creature and not at the same level as creatures. In His being, He is infinite, unlimited being in itself, while creatures only have being in a limited way sourced from God.
According to Thomas outside of analogical knowledge our knowledge of God is only negative. The reason for this is the fact that we are created, finite creatures and cannot know by experience things that apply only to God, like infinitude. We can see the art that only resembles the Artist but we cannot know all that is in the Artist.
This next bit I really liked so I'm just going to let Prof Kreeft speak for himself (quote taken from the lecture study guide):
"I suspect that most of the time, belief or unbelief in God’s existence depends on understanding the meaning of the term “God.” I never met an atheist who I thought fully understood what an intelligent theologian like Aquinas meant by “God.” After talking for a while with an intelligent atheist I always find myself agreeing with him in denying the God he denies; only I claim that’s not the God Aquinas is talking about. For instance, a God who moves around in time and changes, and therefore gets either better or worse in some way, or a God that’s timeless and changeless by doing nothing. Both of these concepts of God are imperfect. Aquinas says God’s perfection is pure act, pure actuality, and pure activity of knowing and loving. He doesn’t change, He doesn’t learn truth because He is all truth, and He doesn’t fall in love for the same reason water doesn’t get wet: because He is love. "I've seen this in many arguments against God, including my previous series from Prof McGinn.
This next question is also eloquently answered by Prof Kreeft, it's the question commonly brought up even as recent as this post on Google+. The answer isn't really all that complicated! It's a linguistic problem, that goes something like this: God has infinite power so asking this question is like asking if a rock could exist that infinite power couldn't pick up. So, the easy answer is no, but not that God isn't all-powerful, it's a misunderstanding of infinite power. A similar answer can be given to many of the questions concerning God. Who created God? That's like asking, what existed/happened before infinity past? That's a contradiction. My personal view is that we shouldn't limit God to a logical anwer, but within our limited perspective, these questions don't make any sense.
One last point (sorry these posts tend to be so long). There are two more critiques of Thomas' view of knowing God. One from Hindu philosophy that sees god as a meaningless personless entity, that beings cannot be eternal. They see one of the definitive aspects of being as finite. The recent pope John Paul II answered this with an ontological argument that personhood is the pinnacle of being not a defect of it. One other argument is from science/logic, that says these arguments only give a start. Which is exactly what Thomas wants to do here. Build a foundation upon which the rest of theology can be built.
Monday, August 26, 2013
Imagine Leads to a horrible Dystopian Future
Line by line analysis of John Lennon's "Imagine." First off, I want to say that there are things I like about this song. It's melodic and harmonically interesting, but the philosophy is completely flawed and doesn't take into account the ramifications of what it encourages.
Heaven, the ultimate benefit of being forgiven and the ultimate rest and hope for the future. Let's imagine all hope for the future is gone? I'd rather not thank you.
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you tryNo, it's not at all.
No hell below usHell, the ultimate consequences of sin and rejection of God, gone. So no ultimate consequences? Everyone can do as he or she pleases, sounds nice until you think about the ramifications of no consequences EVER. Your neighbor likes your TV or your car. Well, he just takes it. There's no consequences outside you not liking him, and what does he care about that? If he's bigger and stronger than you, he can do as he pleases. So, he's held accountable by laws, well, laws based on what? Man's authority? What if he's very wealthy and can buy off the court system? Without ultimate consequences, might makes right and that's not a good place to live at all.
Above us only skySame as before, no hope for future rest.
Imagine all the people living for todaySimilar to no consequences, people living as if there's no tomorrow have no concern about the future. They're wasteful and selfish. Anyone who's ever rented out property can speak to this, people that don't care about the future don't care about what they do in the long run.
Imagine there's no countriesNow, this one, eh. It'd be nice if the world were more together, and cared less about boundaries and trade disputes than they do people.
It isn't hard to doYeah it is, (well, the imagining part isn't hard) people fear change. People fear the unknown. People fear other people, especially people who are different.
Nothing to kill or die forThat would be nice, but removing territorial boundaries wouldn't do that. People would still fight over resources just not on a national level.
And no religion tooThis is reminiscent of Marx's religion is the opiate of the masses. I don't think that ALL religion should be abolished, but people run organized religion and as long as people are in charge religions are going to do bad things. Unfortunately, sin and evil are unavoidable human characteristics, abolishing religion won't do anything to change that.
Imagine all the people living life in peaceAgain, people are going to fight, maybe not on the national level, if there are no countries, but people are still evil.
You, you may sayThis is just a dream, and there's no way to make it a reality.
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join usThat would be nice, but no matter how hard we try people are still going to do bad things, especially if there are no consequences.
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessionsWe could all do with a little less, except maybe people in third-world countries. But, if people focused less on acquiring things the would would be a better place.
I wonder if you canThere will always be greed, as I've said several times already, the removal of consequences will worsen peoples' behaviour not make it better.
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of manAgain, just a dream, albeit a nice one (with the exception of the rampant greed and evil that would exist in this dream).
Imagine all the people sharing all the world
You, you may sayAs I said, I don't really have a problem with the song, I just don't think people realize that taking away consequences and hope makes people behave worse not better. When disasters strike, the people not effected join together and help those that have suffered. However, the people in the midst of the disaster loot and steal and destroy just to gain what little they can in dire circumstances. I don't usually like pop-culture references, but take the recent TV show Revolution on ABC. The world goes crazy because, for no reason at all, all electronics cease working. Is it a nice thing? Do people all band together and love one another and share where there's abundance? Not at all, in fact the opposite. One powerful person takes control of a large arsenal, and leads a militia to rule about a quarter of the US with an iron fist. Hunting down any and all that oppose him and warring to try to gain control of the rest of the former US. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? That's the kind of dystopian future Lennon is suggesting in this song.
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will live as one
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Friday, August 23, 2013
The Philosophy of Thomas Aquinas: Part 4: The Case Against Aquinas’s God and Proofs
Continuing this series on the philosophy of Thomas Aquinas, lecture four deals with rebuttals to Thomas' ways/proofs for god as we looked at in lecture three. One thing of note before I move on though, I never answered the question posed in the title of that lecture. Can you prove God's existence? It seems clear that the answer is, no, but it is certainly a logical position to take.
To start out, it's important to note that in most of Thomas' works he finds three or four counter arguments for his assertions, but for his five ways, he only finds two counter arguments against God, they are, the problem of evil and science. These two objections have been used throughout history as the primary arguments against God, though really only one of the two arguments actually claims to show that God doesn't exist, the other arguments merely claim that one shouldn't believe in God, not that God does not exist.
Thomas' phrasing of the problem of evil goes like this:
It seems that God does not exist, because if one of two contraries be infinite, the other would be altogether destroyed. But the word “God” means that He is infinite goodness. If, therefore, God existed, there would be no evil discoverable; but there is evil in the world. Therefore God does not exist.However, good and evil are not contradictories, rather they are opposite qualities. Opposite qualities can coexist even at the same time in the same person. Prof Kreeft uses the example of visible and invisible, how every person is both, at the same time. Because one's mind is invisible, but one's body isn't. Good and bad is another example, pain is bad, but the pain one experiences because of a good tough workout is good! One thing to note here is that, in some ways, Thomas' answers are not of his own making. Augustine uses much the same arguments against this objection.
One of the most powerful statements about evil is how God can bring about good from evil. Thomas uses the word “allow;” God does not do evil, but He allows it. He created us, He does not kill, but He created beings that are mortal. God does not sin, but He created beings with free will who can sin if they choose. This explanation works for both moral and physical evil. God doesn't create physical evils but he created a world wherein natural disasters/physical evils can happen. One of the important things to note about this is how untenable the alternative is. Either God creates life with the freedom to choose to do evil or God creates life that is completely robotic, devoid of all choice. This objection does leave room for doubt, just as the Ravi Zacharias quote I mentioned from lecture two, faith is reasonable, but reason alone is not enough.
The second objection is from science. Like many of the other objections that have come up since Thomas' day, this objection doesn't really show that God doesn't exist rather that belief in God is superfluous. This objection is often called the principle of parsimony or Ockham's razor. The basic idea is that if one already has an explanation that accounts for all the variables then one shouldn't add any more explanations. Thomas' response is that science doesn't have all the answers, that the five ways show that there are questions that only God can answer.
Prof Kreeft points out that one of the weaknesses in Thomas' ways is in the unmoved mover concept because Thomas didn't know the second half of the Law of Thermodynamics that objects in motion tend to stay in motion. An interesting objection, but it still doesn't account for everything, because even if things stay in motion, nothing is set in motion of its own accord. Also, remember that Thomas' way doesn't simply mean physical motion, but also change, and the philosophical idea of how things have come about, not necessarily physical movement and change. Prof Kreeft also points out that other philosophers like Hume have doubted the idea of causality in general, which is an odd, completely skeptical position to take. One would have to admit that one's parents were not necessarily involved in causing oneself.
Another objection Prof Kreeft brings up against Thomas' ways is rather confusing to me. He says that people claim that "God transcends logic" or that one cannot say anything logical about God. Statements like that, while illogical, still fall within the purview of logic and are contradictory. People that hold views like this see faith and reason as opposites, which is exactly the opposite of what Thomas is showing here. I've heard this view called "fideism" which I've seen reflected in counter arguments. For example, in a recent Facebook conversation about religion someone said that we (those who defend faith) have this "trump card" that says, "We don't need evidence or reason. We have faith." I've seen arguments that end that way and it saddens me, because there is so much logic and reason that corresponds to faith.
Another objection brought up, which I totally agree with and it seems that Thomas saw this as well, says that what the ways prove only a "thin slice of God." Much like the Deists' "watchmaker god" idea which Pascal said was "almost as far removed from Christianity as Atheism" (quote from Peter Kreeft's lecture, I don't think he was quoting Pascal). As I see it, yes in a way, these prove only a small part of a much more complete picture of God, that doesn't mean that the rest of the picture isn't there, but that some of that picture has to be taken on faith. One doesn't have to prove the full picture of the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Christianity one only has to prove that God exists and then through careful study of faith one can come to know more fully the Christian God.
Next is a psychological objection which says that Thomas' ways are just camouflage for his faith. That he is only making these arguments because he grew up believing in God and these ways are just his rationalization of his faith. This is a genetic fallacy just because something has a particular origin, doesn't discount the veracity of the claim or the logic of the argument. The same can be said of Marx's objections. Opiate of the oppressed people? So what? The logical arguments still work and God is still proven to exist. Nietzsche offers an even harsher psychological reproach to Thomas' ways to God. There are two absolute demands in Nietzsche's writing: "to be God yourself rather than bowing to another, and to bow down to the objective truth that you are not God" (quote from Prof Kreeft's lecture notes).
The final objections come out of some misunderstandings. One, comes from the idea that infinite regress cannot exist, after all infinite regress is happens in mathematics, however, real things are not numbers. Here's another, why can't the universe be the first cause? That is answered by the third way. Contingent things require a necessary being in order to exist. Related to this, the "who created God?" question is a misunderstanding of what God is. How can you ask who created the uncreated? By definition God has no cause and no beginning, He is the very essence of existence, so this question is a misunderstanding of what God is.
I don't know how to summarize this next part so here's another quote from the lecture notes:
"[T]he objector might say, then isn’t there a self-contradiction in the proofs? They all conclude to a God who doesn’t need a cause, but they begin with the principle that everything needs a cause."To sum this up, these aren't the end-all-be-all for all the arguments for God. Thomas doesn't close the issue of God, even God doesn't do that. He still leaves it open for faith. Sorry again for the long delay in writing this, I've been busy with school and work, thank you for your patience with me.
This is actually an embarrassingly poor objection, although it’s found in the writings of no less a genius than Bertrand Russell. And the answer is simply that Aquinas never says that everything needs a cause. He says that everything in motion needs a cause, everything that begins to exist needs a cause, everything contingent needs a cause, everything imperfect needs a cause, and every unintelligent being that acts for an end needs a cause. If you read the actual arguments carefully enough, these misunderstandings disappear."
Thursday, August 8, 2013
The Philosophy of Thomas Aquinas: Part 3: Can You Prove God’s Existence?
As mentioned in the last lecture, Thomas presents five ways to argue for the existence of god. Rather than calling them proofs, Thomas wants these points to lead people to believe that god exists. Also, since the lecture series is following the Summa Theologiae these are only short summaries of the arguments presented in the Summa Contra Gentiles. Before looking at Thomas' arguments Prof Kreeft asks the question, why is this an important question?
Everything in the material universe needs some kind of explanation. Even miracles need a sufficient reason, and that reason is a miracle maker. He uses the example of a rabbit... If a rabbit suddenly appeared on your desk, you'd immediately start looking for a reason. Did it fall from the ceiling, jump up from the floor, magician pull it from a hat, or God just create a rabbit on your desk? There has to be a reason for its existence.
Way #2: Existence
Way #3: Contingency
Way #4: Imperfection
Way #5: Design
By far his most popular argument I've seen this argument used alone and Prof McGinn treated this as its type of argument for god.
Prof Kreeft shoots holes in the famous (possibly Bertrand Russell) quote about a million monkeys with a million keyboards for a million years, could type out Shakespeare. It's possible but no one says that's the explanation of Shakespeare, why would we make the same assumptions about the universe? Also, Prof Kreeft mentions that a mathematician actually crunched the numbers and said it would take more like a trillion monkeys a trillion years to get just the first paragraph.
One last comment, "intelligent design" scientists claim that irreducible complexity scientifically proves this point. Prof Kreeft says that he thinks Thomas would not have agreed, that this is a philosophical proof, not a scientific proof. Prof Kreeft thinks that Thomas would have accepted Darwinian evolution as the design tool that God used to make humans/life as we know it. As such he wouldn't get the intended insult of the metal bumper emblem of the fish with Darwin's name in it. He would think it's an argument for theism. I don't know about this last point and I disagree in general (based mostly on faith/theological interpretation of the Bible, I've written about it before), but that doesn't lessen the impact of the arguments, and I'm sure Francis Collins would agree with these assessments/arguments.
Why is belief in God important? To answer that question Prof Kreeft quotes Nietzsche:
Where is [g]od? I shall tell you. We have killed him, you and I . . . But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we all moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night and more night coming on all the while? . . . Who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves become gods simply to seem worthy of it?And Sartre:
God does not exist and we have to face all the consequences of this. The existentialist is strongly opposed to a certain kind of secular ethics which would like to abolish [g]od with the least possible expense . . . something like this: [g]od is a useless and costly hypothesis; we are discarding it, but meanwhile, in order for there to be an ethics, a society, a civilization, it is essential that certain values be taken seriously and that they be considered as having an a priori existence. It must be obligatory a priori to be honest, not to lie, not to beat your wife, to have children, etc. etc. So we’re going to try a little device which will make it possible to show that values exist all the same, inscribed in a heaven of ideas, though . . . [g]od does not exist . . .Without god there's no source of a priori goodness, no foundation for any moral system.
Of the three types of arguments for god, cosmological, experiential (moral), and ontological, all of Thomas's five ways are cosmological arguments because they deal with cosmology, how we see the universe. Thomas rejected St. Anselm’s “ontological argument” which totally makes sense to me. All five of the ways are approached in basically the same format, they each start with an observation of one of five features of the universe: motion, causality, contingency, imperfection, and order. Then, after considering the only two answers possible (either there is or isn't and uncaused first cause), it explains how one answer fails to explain the universe. Then the opposite must be true. After both sides are considered and one comes out wanting, Thomas adds a tag, "this is what people call 'god.'" As I countered Prof McGinn's arguments before, Thomas isn't trying to prove the God of the Bible, just make a way towards showing that a god exists and therefore secular humanism is wrong.
Way #1: Motion/Change
This is his longest, partly because Thomas feels it's the most manifest and probably because the others are related to the first so some of the others can be included in this argument.
It is certain and evident to our senses that in the world some things are in motion. Now whatever is in motion is put in motion by another. For motion is nothing else than the reduction of something from potentiality to actuality, and nothing can be reduced from potentiality to actuality except by something in a state of actuality. Thus that which is actually hot, such as fire, makes wood, which is potentially hot, to be actually hot, and thereby moves it. Thus whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another.The "first mover" can't be the universe itself, because neither a thing in itself can't move itself nor can the complete chain of events start itself. Like a chain of dominoes, someone has to push the first one, no matter how complex the chain is.
Now if that by which it is put in motion is itself put in motion, then
this also must be put in motion by another, and that by another again. But this cannot go on to infinity, because then there would be no first (unmoved) mover, and consequently no other mover, seeing that subsequent movers move only inasmuch as they are put in motion by the first mover, as the staff moves only because it is put in motion by the hand.
Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other.
And this everyone understands to be God.
Everything in the material universe needs some kind of explanation. Even miracles need a sufficient reason, and that reason is a miracle maker. He uses the example of a rabbit... If a rabbit suddenly appeared on your desk, you'd immediately start looking for a reason. Did it fall from the ceiling, jump up from the floor, magician pull it from a hat, or God just create a rabbit on your desk? There has to be a reason for its existence.
Way #2: Existence
In the world of sense we find that there is an order of efficient causes. There is no case known, nor is it possible, in which a thing is found to be the efficient cause of itself; for if so, it would be prior to itself, which is impossible.Prof Kreeft's analogy for this one is a book (=existence).
Now in efficient causes following in order, the first is the cause of the intermediate cause, and the intermediate cause is the cause of the ultimate cause, whether the intermediate cause be several or one only. Now to take away the cause is to take away the effect. Therefore, if there be no first cause among efficient causes, there will be no ultimate, nor any intermediate cause. But if in efficient causes it is possible to go on to infinity, there will be no first efficient cause, either will there be an ultimate effect, nor any intermediate efficient causes; all of which is plainly false. Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.
Me: There's a book that explains the entire universe.My children have existence because I gave it to them (in a way, really I just played one small part). I got my existence from my parents and so on. The same is true with the entire universe. Nothing that is created can create itself or else it must have existed before it created itself which is impossible.
You: I'd love to borrow it.
M: Well, I don't have it I have to get it from a friend.
Y: Okay.
M: Well, he doesn't have it, he has to borrow it from the library.
Y: When will that happen?
M: Well, it's not at the library they have to get it from the store.
Y: Is it coming out sometime then?
M: Well, no one really has it...
Way #3: Contingency
We find in nature things that are able to either be or not be, since they are found to come into existence and go out of existence, and con- sequently they are able to either be or not to be. But it is impossible for any of these beings to exist always, for whatever has a possibility not to be, at some time is not. Thus if everything has the possibility not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. But if this were true, then there would not be anything in existence now, because that which does not exist cannot begin to exist except by means of something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist, and thus even now nothing would be in existence—which is absurd. Therefore not all beings are merely possible but there must exist something whose existence is necessary.This one is tough. If there is no god, the universe could have no beginning - infinite. If the universe is infinite then all contingencies would be possible, including the end of all things. So, given an infinite amount of time everything ends and if everything ends then the universe would be nothing and it cannot restart itself because nothing comes from nothing. I've used a similar type argument using entropy, saying that everything is moving from more ordered to less ordered. Given an infinite universe there should be nothing left. Also, given that whole galaxies are moving (the so called "red shift") then given an infinite universe they should be an infinite distance away by now. The so called, god cannot have a beginning, he is a necessary being that has his existence of himself alone.
Way #4: Imperfection
The fourth way is taken from the gradation to be found in things. Among beings there are some more and some less good, true, noble, and the like. But “more” and “less” are predicated of different things according as they resemble in their different ways something which is the maximumThis only works if one accepts a ranking of things. If humans are no better than vegetables, then one that holds that view, would reject this way out of hand. However, Prof Kreeft quips that if you hold that humans are not better than vegetables, please don't invite him over to dinner.
. . . so there is something which is truest, something best, something noblest, and consequently something which is uttermost being . . . And this we call God.
Way #5: Design
By far his most popular argument I've seen this argument used alone and Prof McGinn treated this as its type of argument for god.
The fifth way is taken from the governance of the world. We see that things which lack intelligence, such as natural bodies, act for an end, and this is evident from their acting always (or nearly always) in the same way so as to obtain the best result. Hence it is plain that not by chance but by design do they achieve their end. Now whatever lacks intelligence cannot move toward an end unless it be directed by some being endowed with knowledge and intelligence, as the arrow is shot to its mark by the archer. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.Prof Kreeft uses the arrow analogy, the universe is like an arrow flying along a specific trajectory, it's not random everything has a design or an end that is seeks. And the book analogy, the universe (I'd say most evident is DNA/RNA) is more like a book than an explosion in a print factory. He brings up a good point, the more design you find the less likely things have happened by chance. Like a letter 'S' written in the sand, sure wind/waves/the elements could form the letter, but if you find "SOS" you're more certain you're looking for an intelligence, even more so if you find the first page of Hamlet written in the sand.
Prof Kreeft shoots holes in the famous (possibly Bertrand Russell) quote about a million monkeys with a million keyboards for a million years, could type out Shakespeare. It's possible but no one says that's the explanation of Shakespeare, why would we make the same assumptions about the universe? Also, Prof Kreeft mentions that a mathematician actually crunched the numbers and said it would take more like a trillion monkeys a trillion years to get just the first paragraph.
One last comment, "intelligent design" scientists claim that irreducible complexity scientifically proves this point. Prof Kreeft says that he thinks Thomas would not have agreed, that this is a philosophical proof, not a scientific proof. Prof Kreeft thinks that Thomas would have accepted Darwinian evolution as the design tool that God used to make humans/life as we know it. As such he wouldn't get the intended insult of the metal bumper emblem of the fish with Darwin's name in it. He would think it's an argument for theism. I don't know about this last point and I disagree in general (based mostly on faith/theological interpretation of the Bible, I've written about it before), but that doesn't lessen the impact of the arguments, and I'm sure Francis Collins would agree with these assessments/arguments.
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